this is someone who frankly when he says i've looked at mitt romney's foreign policy and i think it's spore addic that really matters. i see this as an opportunity for the romney campaign to try to distract from what is a very serious endorcement from general powell. >> let's get to another topic here, karen. an article in the "washington post." it's a new one that argues there is a high likelihood president obama could win the electoral vote but not the popular vote, which would be a first for an incumbent. could we survive the hyperpartisanship that that scenario would likely cause? >> i don't know, alex. i mean, i really hope that doesn't happen for so many reasons. i think it would be terrible for the country for so many reasons. we've already become so partisan. i'm actually have to tell you they was skeptical of some of the modelling that we've seen going on. i think a lot of the polls and a lot of the modelling has underestimated the number of latinos and african-american voters. we have 8 million more latino voters, for example, voting in 2012 than we did in 2008. most of the